1994 Legislative Session: 3rd Session, 35th Parliament

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No. 21

VOTES AND PROCEEDINGS

OF THE

Legislative Assembly of British Columbia

Wednesday, April 6, 1994

Two o'clock p.m.

Prayers by Ms. O'Neill.

The Hon. B. Barlee (Minister of Small Business, Tourism and Culture) presented to the Speaker a Message from His Honour the Lieutenant Governor, which read as follows:

David C. Lam
Lieutenant Governor

The Lieutenant Governor transmits herewith Bill (No. 21) intituled Heritage Conservation Statutes Amendment Act, 1994 and recommends the same to the Legislative Assembly.

Government House,
March 24, 1994.

Bill introduced and read a first time.

Second reading at the next sitting after today.

Order called for "Oral Questions by Members."

By leave, Mr. Weisgerber tabled a copy of a document received under the Freedom of Information and Protection of Privacy Act.

By leave, Mr. Neufeld tabled a copy of a document from the B.C. Lottery Corporation.

The House proceeded to "Orders of the Day."

Pursuant to Order, the House resumed the adjourned debate on the amendment to the Address in Reply to the Speech of His Honour the Lieutenant Governor at the opening of the Session.

The debate on the amendment continued.

On the motion of the Hon. M. F. Harcourt, debate on the amendment was adjourned.

41  The Hon. G. Clark moved--

Be it resolved that this House hereby authorizes the Committee of Supply for this Session to sit in two sections designated Section A and Section B; Section A to sit in such Committee Room as may be appointed from time to time, and Section B to sit in the Chamber of the Assembly, subject to the following rules:

1. The Standing Orders applicable to the Committees of the Whole House shall be applicable in both Sections of the Committee of Supply save and except that in Section A, a Minister may defer to a Deputy Minister to permit such Deputy to reply to a question put to the Minister.

2. Subject to paragraph 3, within one sitting day of the passage of this Motion, the House Leader of the Official Opposition may advise the Government House Leader, in writing, of three ministerial Estimates which the Official Opposition requires to be considered in Section B of the Committee of Supply, and upon receipt of such notice in writing, the Government House Leader shall confirm in writing that the said three ministerial Estimates shall be considered in Section B of the Committee of Supply.

3. All estimates shall stand referred to Section A, save and except those Estimates which shall be referred to Section B under the provisions of paragraph 2 of this Order and such other Estimates as shall be referred to Section B on motion by the Government House Leader, which motion shall be governed by the provisions of Standing Order 60a. Practice Recommendation #6 relating to Consultation shall be applicable to this rule.

4. The Committee of Selection shall appoint 20 Members for Section A, being 13 Members of the New Democratic Party, five Members of the Liberal Party and two other Members. In addition, the Deputy Chair of the Committee of the Whole, or his or her nominee, shall preside over the debates in Section A. Substitution of Members will be permitted to Section A with the consent of that Member's Whip, where applicable, otherwise with the consent of the Member involved.

5. At thirty minutes prior to the ordinary time fixed for adjournment of the House, the Chair of Committee A will report to the House. In the event such report includes the last vote in a particular ministerial Estimate, after such report has been made to the House, the Government shall have a maximum of eight minutes, and the Official Opposition a maximum of five minutes, and all other Members (cumulatively) a maximum of three minutes to summarize the Committee debate on a particular ministerial Estimate completed, such summaries to be in the following order:

(1) Other members;

(2) Official Opposition; and

(3) Government.

6. Committee B shall be composed of all Members of the House.

7. Divisions in Section A will be signalled by the ringing of the division bells four times.

8. Divisions in Section B will be signalled by the ringing of the division bells three times at which time proceedings in Section A will be suspended until completion of the division in Section B.

9. Section B is hereby authorized to consider Bills referred to Committee after second reading thereof and the Standing Orders applicable to Bills in Committee of the Whole shall be applicable to such Bills during consideration thereof in Section B, and for all purposes Section B shall be deemed to be a Committee of the Whole. Such referrals to Section B shall be made upon motion without notice by the Minister responsible for the Bill, and such motion shall be decided without amendment or debate. Practice Recommendation #6 relating to Consultation shall be applicable to all such referrals.

10. Section A is hereby authorized to consider Bills referred to Committee after second reading thereof and the Standing Orders applicable to Bills in Committee of the Whole shall be applicable to such Bills during consideration thereof in Section A, and for all purposes Section A shall be deemed to be a Committee of the Whole. Such referrals to Section A shall be made upon motion without notice by the Minister responsible for the Bill, and such motion shall be decided without amendment or debate. Practice Recommendation #6 relating to Consultation shall be applicable to all such referrals.

11. Bills or Estimates previously referred to a designated Committee may at any stage be subsequently referred to another designated Committee on motion of the Government House Leader or Minister responsible for the Bill as hereinbefore provided by Rule Nos. 3, 9 and 10.

A debate arose.

Mr. Mitchell asked leave to adjourn the debate.

Leave was not granted.

The debate continued.

Mr. Serwa moved the following amendments--

In section 4:

by deleting the number "13" as it relates to Members of the New Democratic Party and substituting the number "15";

by deleting the word "five" as it relates to Members of the Liberal Party and substituting the word "six";

by deleting the word "two" as it relates to other Members and substituting the word "three".

In section 10 by deleting all the words after the word "shall" in the fourth line to the end of the sentence in the fifth line and substituting the words "only be made with the unanimous consent of the House."

The amendments were agreed to.

The debate on the motion, as amended, continued.

The Hon. G. Clark moved an amendment as follows--

In section 4 by deleting the number "20" and substituting the number "24".

The amendment was agreed to.

Motion, as amended, agreed to on the following division:

The motion, as amended, reads as follows:

Be it resolved that this House hereby authorizes the Committee of Supply for this Session to sit in two sections designated Section A and

Section B; Section A to sit in such Committee Room as may be appointed from time to time, and Section B to sit in the Chamber of the Assembly, subject to the following rules:

1. The Standing Orders applicable to the Committees of the Whole House shall be applicable in both Sections of the Committee of Supply save and except that in Section A, a Minister may defer to a Deputy Minister to permit such Deputy to reply to a question put to the Minister.

2. Subject to paragraph 3, within one sitting day of the passage of this Motion, the House Leader of the Official Opposition may advise the Government House Leader, in writing, of three ministerial Estimates which the Official Opposition requires to be considered in Section B of the Committee of Supply, and upon receipt of such notice in writing, the Government House Leader shall confirm in writing that the said three ministerial Estimates shall be considered in Section B of the Committee of Supply.

3. All estimates shall stand referred to Section A, save and except those Estimates which shall be referred to Section B under the provisions of paragraph 2 of this Order and such other Estimates as shall be referred to Section B on motion by the Government House Leader, which motion shall be governed by the provisions of Standing Order 60a. Practice Recommendation #6 relating to Consultation shall be applicable to this rule.

4. The Committee of Selection shall appoint 24 Members for Section A, being 15 Members of the New Democratic Party, six Members of the Liberal Party and three other Members. In addition, the Deputy Chair of the Committee of the Whole, or his or her nominee, shall preside over the debates in Section A. Substitution of Members will be permitted to Section A with the consent of that Member's Whip, where applicable, otherwise with the consent of the Member involved.

5. At thirty minutes prior to the ordinary time fixed for adjournment of the House, the Chair of Committee A will report to the House. In the event such report includes the last vote in a particular ministerial Estimate, after such report has been made to the House, the Government shall have a maximum of eight minutes, and the Official Opposition a maximum of five minutes, and all other Members (cumulatively) a maximum of three minutes to summarize the Committee debate on a particular ministerial Estimate completed, such summaries to be in the following order:

(1) Other members;

(2) Official Opposition; and

(3) Government.

6. Committee B shall be composed of all Members of the House.

7. Divisions in Section A will be signalled by the ringing of the division bells four times.

8. Divisions in Section B will be signalled by the ringing of the division bells three times at which time proceedings in Section A will be suspended until completion of the division in Section B.

9. Section B is hereby authorized to consider Bills referred to Committee after second reading thereof and the Standing Orders applicable to Bills in Committee of the Whole shall be applicable to such Bills during consideration thereof in Section B, and for all purposes Section B shall be deemed to be a Committee of the Whole. Such referrals to Section B shall be made upon motion without notice by the Minister responsible for the Bill, and such motion shall be decided without amendment or debate. Practice Recommendation #6 relating to Consultation shall be applicable to all such referrals.

10. Section A is hereby authorized to consider Bills referred to Committee after second reading thereof and the Standing Orders applicable to Bills in Committee of the Whole shall be applicable to such Bills during consideration thereof in Section A, and for all purposes Section A shall be deemed to be a Committee of the Whole. Such referrals to Section A shall only be made with the unanimous consent of the House. Practice Recommendation #6 relating to Consultation shall be applicable to all such referrals.

11. Bills or Estimates previously referred to a designated Committee may at any stage be subsequently referred to another designated Committee on motion of the Government House Leader or Minister responsible for the Bill as hereinbefore provided by Rule Nos. 3, 9 and 10.

On the motion for second reading of Bill (No. 8) intituled Accountants (Management) Act, a debate arose.

Bill (No. 8) read a second time and Ordered to be placed on the Orders of the Day for committal at the next sitting after today.

On the motion for second reading of Bill (No. 6) intituled Insurance Amendment Act, 1994, a debate arose.

Bill (No. 6) read a second time and Ordered to be placed on the Orders of the Day for committal at the next sitting after today.

On the motion for second reading of Bill (No. 2) intituled Architects Amendment Act, 1994, a debate arose.

Bill (No. 2) read a second time and Ordered to be placed on the Orders of the Day for committal at the next sitting after today.

Pursuant to Order, the House resumed the adjourned debate on the amendment to the Address in Reply to the Speech of His Honour the Lieutenant Governor at the opening of the Session.

The debate on the amendment continued.

The House divided.

The amendment was negatived on the following division:

On the motion of the Hon. G. Clark, the debate was adjourned to the next sitting of the House.

And then the House adjourned at 5.37 p.m.

EMERY BARNES, Speaker

MEETINGS OF COMMITTEES

SPECIAL COMMITTEE OF SELECTION

The Committee will meet at 4.30 o'clock p.m. on Thursday, April 7, in the Douglas Fir Room (Room 226).
Business: Organization and Committee Membership.

Hon. G. Clark, Convener

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